[text copied in its entirety from irish folklore list to be used by me for future research] >Getting back to the Christian conversion of Ireland: It was a process and >conversion did not happen overnight. There were few permanent settlements, >people remained quite mobile and scattered. Missionaries had their work cut >out for them. - fg An interesting process at that. One thing I would say is that I don't really regard it as a 'conversion' because 'having a religion' probably entered Ireland along with Christianity. The likeliest channel would be south west Britain where the Irish had established a short-lived kingdom and it is likely that intermarriage, migration from Britain to Ireland, and perhaps even the Irish in Britain adopting the Christian faith while there, were the key factors in establishing small Christian communities in Ireland. It is important to remember that the early post-Apostolic Church had no organized or official approach to non-Christians and conversion was a matter for the individual. Christian teachers were moving among the converted from household to household and conversion was sporadic and individual rather than communal. In the 5th century Palladius was sent to be the first bishop 'ad Scottos in Christum credentes' ('the Irish believing in Christ'). From the book Early Medieval Ireland 400 -1200 by Dáibhí Ó Cróinín: "For the earliest period we are only guessing, but it is reasonable to presume that the organization of Christian communities would have been along the lines as the organization of Christian communities elsewhere in the West. A structure of dioceses was probably envisaged, doubtless with the intention ultimately of establishing provinces and a regular hierarchy of bishops, priests, deacons, and the other ecclesiastical grades. Unfortunately, there is a large gap in our historical sources between the fifth century and the late sixth/early seventh century, the period of our earliest surviving ecclesiastical legislation, and though the later canon law collections mention bishops and dioceses as apparently established structures and offices, we have no way of knowing how many bishops existed and how they administered to the Irish church." also: "The writings of Patrick - our only contemporary source of information - present an altogether less rosy picture of the first days of the church in Ireland. Several times he remarks on the physical dangers faced by him and his followers and states quite candidly that it was necessary to purchase the goodwill and protection of the local kings and their brehon lawyers (illi qui iudicabant, Conf. 53), that body of professional jurists whose remit was the preservation and interpretation of the laws. He claimed in his own defence against detractors that he had expended the price of fifteen men on such things, but even so, he and his followers were in mortal danger on more than one occasion. The Christian message was not everywhere enthusiastically received; many of his flock 'endured persecution and lying reproaches from their parents' (Conf. 42).Life was particularly difficult for the women among them: 'they who are kept in slavery suffer especially', he says, and the general impression is one of intense hardship and suffering. Patrick seems to have concentrated particularly on the conversion of women in Irish society, urging a life of celibacy on the unmarried and discouraging remarriage of widows (Conf. 42). In this he was, of course following a pattern established by the early church, and the strictures made on the first Christians were doubtless repeated in the Irish case. From the earliest Christian times it was a constant refrain among anti-Christian writers that the church's doctrines gained credence only with a public unable to tell truth from nonsense; they were believed in only by children, slaves, and especially women. Opponents of Christianity charged that the church's teachings were offered most often to the uneducated and by people of low standing in the community. Patrick refers (Conf. 41) to the 'sons of the Irish and daughters of chieftains', and it may well be that his message was addressed principally to the young and to women.... he recounts also how the women converts used, of their own accord, to present him with their little gifts, placing their personal jewellery on his altar (Conf. 49), causing scandal in the non-Christian community and also among the Christians, doubtless because some felt that Patrick was abusing his position to make money - a charge which his own strenuous denials prove was widespread." Unfortunately Patrick's testimony only provides spartan details about the native cults he encountered. He claims the Irish were sun-worshipers but describes Christ as the Sol Invictus. He says that they worshiped 'idols and abominations' but provides little in the way of description. Personally I lean to the view that paganism was not defined as a body of words and orthodoxy with set rituals either in Antiquity or in pre-Christian Ireland. I think there was a traditional grammar of actions that might be performed perhaps at a particular time or place that seemed significant, or perhaps in a time of need. I think that votive and thanksgiving offerings were made. I think there would be a sense of tradition that different communities would pass down what they thought had worked for them in ensuring good harvests, good health, etc. and that keeping a piety to tradition was important. I am reminded of what Seneca, the Roman philospher of the 1st century, wrote on Roman religion: "If you have ever come upon a dense grove of ancient trees rising to an unusual height and blocking the sight of the sky with the shade of branch upon branch, the loftiness of the forest, the solitude of the place, and the marvel of such thick and unbroken shadow out in the open generate belief in a divine presence. And any cave where the rocks have been eaten away deep into the mountain it supports, not made by human but hands but hollowed out into a vast expanse by natural forces, will suggest to your spirit some need for religious observance. We venerate the sources of great rivers: the sudden eruption of a tremendous stream from its concealment causes altars to be built. Hot springs are worshipped and darkness and immeasurable depth renders certain pools sacred." and Apuleis tells us that: "It is the custom of pious travellers, whenever they comes across a sacred grove or holy place along their way to make a vow, offer fruit and sit for a while." Going back to to Ó Cróinín: "The earliest Christians cannot have been numerous or influential enough to constitute a source of political power; as we shall see shortly, the evidence, such as it is, suggests that kings and aristocracy were conspicuously resistant to the new religion. That is not to say, however that the Christians were anonymous and unseen. There is no reason to doubt that in Ireland, as in every other country where Christianity was introduced, zealots took to the high-roads and criss-crossed the countryside smashing the symbols of the rival religion and looting its temples: 'There is no such thing as robbery for those who truly possess Christ'. There was ample evidence in the experience fo fourth-century North Africa and the Eastern provinces that looting and smashing the physical edifice of all competing cults 'could produce solid results, though not absolutely final ones'." Tellingly we can see in the c. 700 Life of St Cuthbert where the Irish have set up a monastery in Northumbria the reaction to the natives there when some monks are swept out to sea in a sudden storm the crowd of onlookers are said to have jeered at them 'qui communia mortalium iura spernentes, noua et ignota darent statuta uiuendi' ('because they had despised the common law of mortals and put forth new and unknown rules of life') and when rebuked by St Cuthbert they were said to reply 'qui et ueteres culturas hominibus tulere, et nouas qualiter obseruare debant nemo nout' ('Let no man pray for them, and may God have no mercy on any one of them, for they have robbed men of the old ways of worship, and how the new worship is to be conducted, nobody knows'. Muirchú's Life of St Patrick renders a supposedly native prophecy poem into Latin and a later Life presents the same poem in Irish. It is possible that it represents native sentiment Across the sea will come Adze-head, crazed in the head, his cloak with hole for the head, his stick bent in the head. He will chant impiety from a table in the front of his house; all his people will answer: 'Amen, Amen'. So we can see that the process whereby Christianity came to Ireland was probably a complex one and as Ó Cróinín says: " 'He will utter impiety', Muirchú adds (incantabit nefas), which was doubtless the view of non-Christians in the face of demands that they abandon their own gods and adopt the Christian one. The stark reality of the new religion with its single god who destroyed all others, given to outbursts of divine wrath and prone to vengeance and punishment, may very well have seemed impious to a people more used to a variety of deities and to the toleration of many cults." I think that this is a key point because Christianity offered a new grammar of rituals and actions that people could adopt and turn to (even in the 8th century we can find invocations to Goibniu and Dian Cécht), but it also added the idea of an orthodoxy and defined what aspects of ritual and everyday life were acceptable within a Christian life and which ones were pagan/diabolical. It is interesting to note the various attitudes adopted to the gods/spirits we see in early texts. There was much debate as to their nature and whether they were good/neutral/evil but rarely is there doubt that they had been real and believed in by people. They are normally portrayed as powerful whether through divine agency, through having learned magic or through demonic agency but of course we know that they seem to have survived all of this to come down to us in some very important texts and up to modern times in popular belief. -Ts
the Pagan Irish mindset
28 September 2012 by Me
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